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Transgender History: The Important If Somewhat Bizarre Story of the Chevalier d’Éon
Chevalier d'Éon Caricature
Chevalier d'Éon Fencing Performance
Intersex is not one specific thing, it's a multidimensional phenomenon found throughout nature.
Professor Carrie Gabriel Costello
Pauline Park interviews Carrie Gabriel Costello is an associate professor of sociology at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. He is also an intersex trans man. Who is married to an intersex trans woman. And we're going to talk about intersex, what it is, what it isn't. Its relationship to transgender, and what the implications are for public policy and for society.
One of the things that was constantly asserted in the recent election was that there two and only two sexes. You're assigned to a biological sex, that's it. There's no such thing as gender identity apart from the sex you're assigned at birth. But you know, both from personal experience and also from deep study and knowledge of this issue, that there are, in fact more than two sexes. In this show we’ll talk about the sex gender binary and how it's a false dichotomy.
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Costello's sociology blog, A Sociological Eye: https://asociologicaleye.blogspot.com/
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The election post discussed in the interview is on that blog here: https://asociologicaleye.blogspot.com/2024/11/How-not-to-think-about-2024-election.html
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Costello intersex blog, The Intersex Roadshow: https://intersexroadshow.blogspot.com/
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My 101 post on that blog is here: https://intersexroadshow.blogspot.com/2009/04/intersex-101_28.html
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Costello trans advocacy blog, TransFusion: https://trans-fusion.blogspot.com/
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My post about bans on trans youth playing sports: https://trans-fusion.blogspot.com/2022/03/the-real-problem-when-it-comes-to-trans.html
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Out-FM is a weekly progressive, intersectional queer show by and for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, two-spirit, gender non-conforming, intersex, queer, and questioning communities. Our program originates from listener-sponsored, noncommercial WBAI/Pacifica Radio in New York, 99.5 FM and wbai.org. It’s also heard on Pacifica station KPFK in Los Angeles, 90.7 FM and kpfk.org. Our programs are archived at outfm.org. You can also follow us on Facebook, X and Instagram.
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